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@gamingthepast One of my life goals is to one day understand how to play that game

@Akrav Truly! so I'm working on an educator guide for students and my main piece of advice is to ignore as much as possible and keep playing even when your neighbors are taking you out. Roleplay it: don't try to figure out all the numbers, just pick something that sounds vaguely good. I haven't played in years and that's the way I'm handling it.

@gamingthepast That sounds like a good approach, thanks! Every time I have started it, the amount of information on screen has just been too intimidating so I just quit and tell myself I'll try again when I have more time.

Although last year I finally got into CK3, so it might make the transition a bit more digestible!

@Akrav Yeah, just let it run even when you are losing. Get invaded, whatever, just keep the game going. Set yourself a goal "No matter what I will complete 50/100 years for my state."

@gamingthepast I'll give it a shot, thanks!

@Akrav also, play as something like free city Bremen. One province gives you almost no choices. Basically you can work on getting allies and increasing money over time. Leave the clock running and just work on those things & watch what happens. Once you get bored with the lack of options for a one province start a new game as Switzerland or something. Repeat (Milan will take over some of your Swiss provinces guaranteed -- that's not your fault nor can you really stop it -- keep the clock going)

@gamingthepast Oh interesting. My usual was to go for something Armenian, even though I understand that's hard mode. The furthest I remember getting was with Aragon, so you're probably on to something.

@Akrav let me know how it goes ! I'm working on something where articulate learner's insights like yourself are really helpful