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As you may be able to tell, our class has now reached the era of the

So, continuing our exploration of student (as always: descriptive, not prescriptive!):

1) As I expected, "Battleship Potemkin" was something completely new to them. They were suitably moved by the famous scene on the Odessa steps

archive.org/details/Battleship

(but why I did I first have to admonish a couple of them focused on their laptops or phones to turn toward the screen? WTF)

1/n

If "Battleship Potemkin" meant nothing to our students, then they were certainly not aware of Eisenstein's great "October," either.

youtube.com/watch?v=k62eaN9-TL

I hinted that, when their cultural tastes had further matured, I might at last introduce them to

"Aelita Queen of Mars" (1924) 🙃

imdb.com/title/tt0014646/plots

youtu.be/yoROo4Ur49c

3/n

But back to issues of students' cultural literacy, for lack of a better term (as noted, always descriptive rather than prescriptive)

Today, re: Bolshevik Revolution

One had an idea of housing blocks & monumental architecture

The rest: pretty much: 0

I noted opinion polls showing that students/young people had more positive views of socialism vs. capitalism--which I found interesting insofar as they had 0 knowledge of Marxism, socialist theory, revolutionary history

All instructive!

4/n

@CitizenWald
I’m curious what the composition of this class is—e.g. is this upper-division history majors or first-years in a gen ed class?

But I do find that even history majors don’t necessarily come in with a good background in the history of political ideologies (socialism, fascism, or even liberalism).

@tkinias Short answer: small seminar with students at various points in their studies. Our course numbers reflect general levels, and this one is classified intermediate, but there is no set sequence, and few courses have prerequisites, so anyone can take pretty much anything. All but one are in their first year (counting spring-semester transfers)

And as I've said: I am not criticizing or testing them: just need to know what they know or don't know so that I can pitch my explanations correctly

@CitizenWald
Oh yeah, I know you’re not “kids today”-ing!—just trying to calibrate to what I see with my own students.

@tkinias Right, that was just for the benefit of anyone jumping in here in midstream.
And what do you find?
(I have taught a large gen-ed lecture course at UMass but that was via Zoom during COVID and TA's had all the direct contact with the students, so it was hard to draw too many inferences from that)

@CitizenWald
I find students vary quite a lot in what kind of knowledge they bring in—but that I can’t really make any assumptions. (E.g., when I taught modern Britain last year, I wound up taking a class period in the early 20C to explain what socialism and Communism are, because I realized students didn’t have the background to understand the significance of the rise of Labour).

@tkinias @CitizenWald And then there’s the perennial need to clarify for them why national socialism ain’t socialism.

@tkinias @avielroshwald Thankfully, I have not had to deal with that one yet, since these students are all left-leaning.

However, one students did say their high school history teacher had told them about the "horseshoe" model in which the extreme right and extreme left converge. I responded "So did mine, and even then I knew he was wrong." But I went on to explain where the idea came from, etc. etc.

Thanasis Kinias

@CitizenWald @avielroshwald
the horseshoe business is one I feel like I have to quash at least once a semster...