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@phistorians Reading about Numerian - roman-empire.net/people/numeri - I find references to him being a critically acclaimed poet in his day. Do you happen to know if any of his poetry survived? I'm writing a coin of his & I'd include some if I can find it. It seems more successful to talk about that than "he went on a father-son war adventure. Dad died (possibly murdered), then he died (probably murdered) on the way home" :D Neither dad nor either of his sons got long service leave as emperors.

The Roman Empire · Emperor Numerian AD C. 253 - 284 - remarkably amiable and a great orator and poetMarcus Aurelius Numerius Numerianus was the younger son of the later Emperor Carus, born in about AD 253. Numerian and his elder brother Carinus were raised

@CoinOfNote in the case of Numerian, I think we’re not in luck in terms of surviving literature. There is also the tendency in the few sources we have to strongly criticise Numerian’s brother Carinus. This has made scholars wonder if Numerian’s literary and rhetorical skills were talked up as a way of offering further criticism of Carinus. A fascinating period of chaotic history! You might find Penella’s article ‘The Eloquence of the Emperor Numerian’ (on JStor) of interest here. Discussing the way ancient writers often bolstered criticism of someone by praising the qualities of someone else could be an avenue here ☺️

@phistorians Ah a pity. In that case, I assume there's not likely to be a surviving copy of Numerian's great work:

There once was a man named Aper,
Who was keen to be emperor!
He did for my dad,
Which was very bad!
And now I fear I'm a goner!

Also, thank you, I WILL check out that link, which is no doubt, more eloquent than my own literature 😀

@CoinOfNote these folks need to wake up to where the quality is at 🤣

@phistorians I finished that piece on Numerian I was writing - and I couldn't help myself, I had to include my prose! But I did quote you directly - I figured I could get away with mangling what Numerian might have said, but you two have swords, so I best try to keep on your good side!

coinofnote.com/284-rome-numeri

coinofnote.com284 Rome Numerian Tetradrachm – Coin of Note

@CoinOfNote ahhh we are honoured to be included! Great write up on the context surrounding the coin 😁

CoinOfNote

@phistorians Thank you - I am more honoured to have done a passable job by you! Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom :)